{"id":52697,"date":"2003-06-19T17:57:28","date_gmt":"2003-06-19T23:57:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/?p=52697"},"modified":"2020-03-19T18:03:52","modified_gmt":"2020-03-20T00:03:52","slug":"no-longer-the-neighborhood-watercolorist-words-with-shanna-kunz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/no-longer-the-neighborhood-watercolorist-words-with-shanna-kunz\/","title":{"rendered":"No Longer the Neighborhood Watercolorist Words with Shanna Kunz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><small><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/shannapainting.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-52703\" src=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/shannapainting.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/shannapainting.jpg 300w, https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/shannapainting-100x80.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>The following are snatches of conversation between Shanna Kunz, Shawn Rossiter, Steve Coray, \u00a0and Brandon Cook at the Eccles Community Art Center on June 2nd. The occasion is the hanging of Kunz\u2019s one-person show to open that Friday, June 6th. The artists have come together to talk about art; hang pictures; shoot images. Cook, Kunz\u2019s studio partner, is taking his one-man show down while Kunz is bringing hers in. Both take advantage of the opportunity to have Coray shoot slide and digital images of their work.<\/span><\/small><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><i>Setting: Beautiful sunny day, sunlight coming through windows. A mess of paintings, cords and lights fills the Art Center. Staff tries their best to stay out of the way and not rush the artists along.<\/p>\n<p>Rossiter, Coray and Cook are busy removing paintings from walls and placing them on an easel to be shot.<\/p>\n<p>Enter Kunz, laden with work.<\/i><br \/>\n<b><br \/>\n<\/b><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>ROSSITER<\/b>\u00a0:\u00a0<i>(offering a hand)<\/i>\u00a0So, how do you feel emotionally about this show you\u2019re about to put up?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0It\u2019s a pretty big deal. To have a good, solid show in my hometown.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">You see, I started out as a watercolorist, a little, almost decorative watercolorist years and years ago. Then I went down to Snow College and took a design workshop and some figure classes and then I thought \u201cNo I don\u2019t want to be this decorative painter.\u201d So I went back to school in Logan to study with Adrian Van Suchtelens, juggling that with teaching and kids and grandkids. And it was really hard work. When people have seen your work before and have known you as a certain decorative artist . . . well it was really important to show who I was.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0This is kind of your ten-year reunion and you have to show your classmates what you\u2019ve done?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><b>KUNZ:\u00a0<\/b>Yeah, I\u2019ve worked really really hard to try and be substantial. To do something substantial. I\u2019ve worked really hard at it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>COOK:<\/b>\u00a0She\u2019s no longer the neighborhood watercolorist\u00a0<i>(interjected as he passes by, painting in hand).<\/i><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b><br \/>\nROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>So, what\u2019s the time span of this work you\u2019re bringing in?<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Most of them were done in the past two or three months.<\/p>\n<p><b>COOK:\u00a0<\/b>Yeah, she\u2019s cranked out a lot of stuff.<i><br \/>\n<\/i><br \/>\n<b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0It\u2019s been insane.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b><br \/>\nROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0So it looks like the majority of these are oil paintings.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ht-1.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-52704\" src=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ht-1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"384\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ht-1.jpeg 500w, https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ht-1-350x269.jpeg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, I\u2019m loving it. I am completely in love with oils. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s the challenge, or the viscosity, or what, but I never thought I would ever be able to give up my watercolors.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><i>(pointing to one piece propped against the wall)\u00a0<\/i>That\u2019s one of my very first oils. Painted real thin. Almost like a watercolor. I work the exact same way in watercolor as I do in oil. Glaze after glaze after glaze.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0Why do you think that is?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0I\u2019m not sure. I don\u2019t know what is right and wrong in oils. Chris Terry [oil painter and instructor at Utah State University] never painted in front of us and Adrian [Van Suchtelens] never worked in oils. Through all my studying, no one ever said, \u201cThis is how you oil paint.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0Does that make you nervous or does that make you glad?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>KUNZ:\u00a0<\/b>It makes my paintings look like my paintings. I don\u2019t know. It could be negative, it could be positive.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Because I\u2019ve watercolored for eleven years, the only thing I know how to do is \u201coil paint\u201d that way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">When I first started oil painting my objective was to translate the watercolors into the oils. It was really important to me because no one took watercolors seriously and I really think they should.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">My watercolors are quite different than a traditional watercolor because they have a lot of color. My objective with watercolor has been to develop the space the same way an oil painter develops space. With watercolor you have to know your pigment, what will go over what, your sediment. Which makes me a very methodical worker. I already have the image assembled in my head before it ever goes to the paper or canvas. I build these parameters before I sit down to paint the painting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/cn.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-52702\" src=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/cn.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"258\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/cn.jpeg 258w, https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/cn-100x80.jpeg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 258px) 100vw, 258px\" \/><\/a>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>So you don\u2019t think a change in medium has necessarily changed your work?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Not really. Everything\u2019s about space \u2013 and I know you can\u2019t see it with watercolor because you\u2019re dealing with a piece of paper &#8212; but even with watercolor I\u2019m thinking of sediment and I\u2019m thinking of actual physical space. When I use my cobalts and my real heavy sediment paints there becomes an actual texture to it and a depth compared to the transparent paints. Now I can do that with oil paints and I can build things up. And I\u2019m just having so much fun with it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>So here you are, you wanted people to take watercolors seriously and you\u2019re giving them up.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0I think that in the long run I won\u2019t give them up. I think I\u2019m more on some little obsession right now. I think I owe that obsession as many years as what I\u2019ve given to watercolors.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>You mentioned that in both cases your process is the same.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Sometimes I despise the fact that I work so methodically . . . but I don\u2019t have it in me to do it another way. Every time I even try to do something different it still comes back.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0Being methodical?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Yes. I don\u2019t think my paintings are formula by any means but I\u2019m very methodical about approach. I run through my thumbnails, look at the notes &#8212; \u201cthis palette\u201d or \u201cthat palette\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Because even before I go into the painting, I have an idea of what I want the overall feeling to be when you walk into it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">It\u2019s not about each piece. Each piece is really important. They are the places I\u2019ve camped in my whole life \u2013 the Uintahs \u2013 and I\u2019ve been up there since I was a little girl and each place is important but the final image isn\u2019t. It\u2019s more about putting the whole group together and feeling it.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-52697 gallery-columns-2 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/no-longer-the-neighborhood-watercolorist-words-with-shanna-kunz\/uintahwinter\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"156\" height=\"125\" src=\"https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/UintahWinter.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/UintahWinter.jpg 156w, https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/UintahWinter-100x80.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 156px) 100vw, 156px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/no-longer-the-neighborhood-watercolorist-words-with-shanna-kunz\/highkeybluemist\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"167\" height=\"125\" src=\"https:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/HighKeyBlueMist.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><b>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>You and Brandon both seem to have a strong attachment to place. Brandon has his Huntsville, you have your high Uintahs . . .<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Our obsessions.<\/p>\n<p><b>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>Yeah, if you want to call it obsession, that works.<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Well I think it\u2019s about pounding it out. It\u2019s pounding a certain series out. Like two years ago it was cottonwoods for me. Everything was about cottonwoods.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">I like to take a series and work through them. When I work I always work in a series. High key, low key. High contrast, low contrast. I always work that way. Four to six going at a time. My most recent obsession has been high key.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><br \/>\n<b>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>Why?<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0I learned this from Adrian. That\u2019s how we learned in school, working in keys and working in color schemes and studying masters palettes and working that back into whatever your subject matter is. I\u2019m doing the high key things because I feel I need to push things. I\u2019m a relatively normal, traditional kind of person, and I would like to push my paintings farther than my personality is. Working in high key is a matter of getting past that invisible line called traditional. It\u2019s a matter of me pushing something I would normally do in a low key because that\u2019s the way I see it and getting outside of myself and doing the exact same thing &#8212; same palette &#8212; but in a high key.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0And that\u2019s your goal?<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, because that\u2019s not how it \u2013 the scene \u2013 is. So I have to develop the skill to make it work as a painting.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><br \/>\n<b>CORAY:<\/b>\u00a0(turning from his camera for a moment) How does working with someone in the studio \u2013 and Brandon specifically &#8212; affect you?<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0We work together really well because we both approach paintings entirely differently. The way we jump into them is entirely different. But he helps me finish pieces all the time and I help him finish pieces.<\/p>\n<p><b>CORAY:<\/b>\u00a0Has it changed your style? Have you evolved in a way you wouldn\u2019t have otherwise?<\/p>\n<p><b>COOK:<\/b>\u00a0I think Shanna and I hit it off really well because our influences were the same influences \u2013 both huge George Inness fans. We could tell just by our photography that we have the same eye for composition, our eyes are attracted to the same thing. So there were definitely similarities and that\u2019s why we got to be friends originally. Then we were talking so much and then it became \u201cHey let\u2019s be studio partners.\u201d As far as an exchange I can\u2019t say if there\u2019s anything consciously going on but I think that you have to affect each other.<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Probably someone else can look at our innate sense of design and be able to see crossovers between us where we don\u2019t see it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><b>CORAY:<\/b>\u00a0Is it ever a negative to be working in the studio together?<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Not for me.<\/p>\n<p><b>COOK:\u00a0<\/b>There are so many benefits to having a studio partner. Sharing paints, canvas, keeping the ball rolling. I mean, this is her frame here. We&#8217;re going to take it off my piece and put it on hers. That&#8217;s wonderful.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><br \/>\n<b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0Okay, so do you guys ever tell each other &#8220;That&#8217;s crap!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ &amp; COOK:\u00a0<\/b><i>(simultaneously)<\/i>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0He tries to do it easy, but we know each other so well that all he has to do is give me a look and I know he doesn&#8217;t like it.<\/p>\n<p><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0He&#8217;s not able to pull punches?<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/wheatfield.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-52699\" src=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/wheatfield.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"260\" height=\"187\" \/><\/a>KUNZ:\u00a0<\/b>Yeah. He knows what works or doesn&#8217;t work and I can see it in him. And I think you (to Cook) know too &#8212; without me saying something &#8212; when something isn&#8217;t working.<\/p>\n<p><b>COOK:<\/b>\u00a0What are you saying? You don&#8217;t like some of my stuff?<\/p>\n<p><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0How do you feel about changing your stuff, Shanna? Have you marketed yourself as a watercolor painter?<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:\u00a0<\/b>I think that I&#8217;ve been marketed as an image and not specifically as a watercolorist.<\/p>\n<p><b>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>The stream with the pines and . . .<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ<\/b>: Yeah, this year. But last year it was the cottonwoods. No, I just think there&#8217;s a feeling about them. They&#8217;re uneventful. They&#8217;re quiet. They&#8217;re quiet pieces.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s weird because my life is total chaos. I have six teenagers at my house all the time. I have nine step-grandchildren and any of them can be at my house anytime; and then family, sisters, nieces, nephews. My house is destroyed usually because I&#8217;m getting ready for a show and there are paintings everywhere. Total chaos. And you don&#8217;t see that in the paintings. They must be therapy.<\/p>\n<p><b>ROSSITER:\u00a0<\/b>As you&#8217;re working, do you keep an audience in mind?<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0No (immediately, and then, almost as quickly). . . . Maybe my dad.<\/p>\n<p><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0Because that&#8217;s who you go camping with?<\/p>\n<p><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah. That&#8217;s who matters the most to me. These are places my dad used to take us fishing to all the time.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><b>ROSSITER:<\/b>\u00a0So is dad happy? Is he proud?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><b>KUNZ:<\/b>\u00a0Oh yeah.\u00a0<i>(beaming)<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Kunz4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-52698\" src=\"http:\/\/artistsofutah.org\/15Bytes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Kunz4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"265\" height=\"124\" \/><\/a>(Exeunt all four artists, stomachs growling.\u00a0 Works by Kunz &amp; Cook intermingle on the gallery floor.\u00a0 Dismayed staff enter to find the artists gone.)<\/p>\n<p>Scene Two: nearby cafe, artists continue the conversation . . .<\/span><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following are snatches of conversation between Shanna Kunz, Shawn Rossiter, Steve Coray, \u00a0and Brandon Cook at the Eccles Community Art Center on June 2nd. The occasion is the hanging of Kunz\u2019s one-person show to open that Friday, June 6th. 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